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The Need for Deep People

Ep 88: Kingdom Dwellers – Suffering Well

Suffering is a universal human experience, yet it raises perhaps the most difficult questions for Christians. Why does a good God allow so much pain and suffering? And, as we grow to become more like Jesus, can a deep disciple learn how to suffer "well?" What does that even mean? Join Brian as he explores the reality and challenge of suffering.

Ep 90: Kingdom Dwellers – Idea Revolutionaries

We're finishing up our mini-series about the characteristics of deep disciples by looking at Jesus as the ultimate Idea Revolutionary. We've introduced two categories of ideas here: Ideas in the Air (in culture and creation) and Ideas in the Soil (in our hearts). Let's explore how Jesus confronted and transformed ideas of both, and how we learn and grow to do the same.

Ep 92: Heaven is a Place on Earth

How does the story of the Kingdom of Light wrap up? Do our "ideas" about Heaven match up with what the Bible teaches about the final consummation of the Kingdom? Will we spend eternity playing harps on clouds, or do the New Heaven and New Earth have more in common with our life right now than we assume? Let's explore our ideas of Heaven, and discuss when and how it's coming to Earth.

Ep 94: Thy Forgotten Kingdom Come!

As we review and wrap up Season 4 (The Forgotten Kingdom), Brian explores a challenging question: what exactly are we praying for when we ask, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done?" The Lord's Prayer has been uttered countless times, though has it become such a rote habit that we haven't truly considered what we're requesting when we pray it? Let's look at the very first petition Jesus taught us to pray in light of our deep dive into the Kingdom of God. What does it mean for the kingdom to come in each of our four relationships (God, others, self, creation)?

The Great Omission

Season 5, Ep. 96: Soul Care w/ Adam Ormord

Welcome to Season 5! We kick off this new season (called Conversations) with Brian's short introduction to the new material. Then he has a fascinating conversation with pastor, thinker, spiritual director, and innovator Adam Ormord. As we continue to wrestle with all we’ve explored in the first four seasons, Adam helps us step back and contemplate what “spiritual formation” truly is. Is it the same thing as discipleship? How does the modern church play a role in our formation? And what does this odd term “soul care” mean? What role might it play in our discipleship journey? Jump on into this fascinating, challenging, provocative conversation with one of the leaders of the modern spiritual formation effort.

Ep 97: (GH) Soul Care w/ Adam Ormord

Episode 97 finds the guys back in the Greenhouse to dig into Brian’s interview with Adam Ormord (⁠Episode 96⁠) regarding spiritual formation and “soul care.”  

Ep 98: The Critical Journey w/ Dr. Jim Reiter

Dr. Jim Reiter joins Brian to discuss The Critical Journey, a book we’ve discussed a few times on the podcast.

Ep 99: (GH) The Critical Journey w/ Dr. Jim Reiter

Kyle, Doc, and Brian sit down to unpack Brian’s recent conversation with Dr. Jim Reiter regarding The Critical Journey, one way of describing our spiritual adventure.

Ep 100! Deep Discipleship & the Redemption of Civilization

Today we celebrate 100 episodes of the podcast with you! Thanks for being a part of the Soil & Roots community. Brian carefully walks through key highlights from the last four seasons, tying together The Great Omission, the vital importance of "ideas," and how we come together to restore New Testament discipleship. Then he asks a key question: So what? What is the cost of not making deep disciples on the individual and civilization? What is the benefit to society when we do become people of spiritual depth? Let's celebrate 100 episodes with this special bonus!

Ep 101: (GH) Deep Discipleship and the Redemption of Civilization

Ep 102: Have We Lost the Plot? w/ Zach Leighton

Ep 103: (GH) Have We Lost the Plot? w/ Zach Leighton

What part does story play in modern Christianity? If it is vital to our spiritual formation, where do we find people and places to explore God’s story and how ours fits into His?

Ep 104: Spiritual Formation and Children w/ Emily Riffe

Over the years, we’ve mentioned how the most supple, malleable time in a person’s life is childhood. The heart is the most impressionable and formable when it’s new. So why do we hear so little about spiritual formation in children? Why does so much of the modern discipleship/spiritual formation movement focus on adults?

Ep 105: (GH) Spiritual Formation and Children

Spiritual Formation and Children

Ep 106: This Beautiful Mess w/ Matt Davis

Brian is joined by Matt Davis, a former megachurch pastor who now heads an organization committed to helping leaders and laypeople heal and find purpose after church hurts. 

Ep 107: (GH) This Beautiful Mess

Sometimes our institutional churches provide comfort, care, instruction, and community. And sometimes not.  Much like the human person, our Christian communities are beautiful messes. 

Ep 108: The Kingdom Regardless w/ Dr. Darrell Bock

In Season 4, we spent a few episodes exploring how our views of the End Times impact our journey to become more like Jesus today. Today, we dive back into that discussion with Dr. Darrell Bock, Senior Research Professor of New Testament Studies and Executive Director for Cultural Engagement at Dallas Theological Seminary.

Ep 109: (GH) The Kingdom Regardless

How do our views of the End Times impact our understanding of the Kingdom of God?  And how does that impact our journey to become more like Jesus?

Ep 110: The Desperate Need for Deep People (Bonus)

If what the world desperately needs is “deep people,” what do we mean by that?

Ep 111: (GH) The Desperate Need for Deep People

Ep 112: The Desperate Need for Deep Communities

For almost five seasons, we’ve explored the world’s desperate need for deep people and how those people are formed.  We’ve concluded that we best become more like Jesus in small, organic communities that often look and function differently from some modern church experiences. While we love and support our local and national institutions, what do we do if we conclude that we are missing these types of intimate, deeply formative communities?

Ep 113: (GH) The Desperate Need for Deep Communities

Ep 114: (Season 6) How Did We Get Here?

Welcome to Season 6! We've mentioned numerous times that the primary purpose of following Jesus is to become more like Him. We intend to think, act, relate, and love like Him more. It's now time to explore what that really means—and it's not as simple as we might think. As usual when we start a new season, today we'll review the key points from Seasons 1-5. Then, we'll look forward and sketch the idea-transforming route we'll take in this new season. Thanks for coming along as we venture into exploring the object of our spiritual formation!

Ep 115: (GH) How Did We Get Here?

Ep 116: What is Love? (Baby Don’t Hurt Me)

Ep 117: (GH) What is Love? (Baby Don’t Hurt Me)

Ep. 118: A Voice from the Clouds

As we continue to explore Jesus, the object of our formation, we marvel at one of His most compelling characteristics: his relational and emotional security. He isn't anxious, rattled, confused, or manipulated by other people's perspectives and opinions. He operates from a rock-solid sense of identity. If we are to become more like Him, is this type of groundedness also for us?

Ep 119: (GH) A Voice In the Clouds

Ep. 120: The Beloved

We continue to explore what it means to increasingly think, act, relate, and love more like Jesus.  Jesus is the most relationally secure person in history. His love flows from a deep, abiding attachment to his Father, so he is not swayed by people's opinions or manipulations.  How might we become more like that? Today, we focus on experiencing what it means to be "the beloved." Our identity and security are ultimately wrapped up in experiencing and living in the reality of being beloved by God. This is not simply an intellectual statement - it is a way of experiencing God in the depths of our souls.

Ep 121: (GH) The Beloved

The guys head back into the Greenhouse to explore what it means to live like the beloved. Along the way, they wrestle with the difference between an intellectual agreement and a heart experience and how we need both for a “complete belief.” This leads to some vulnerable and transparent story-telling, as well as what it means to experience God’s love when life doesn’t go our way. Come alongside for this very personal episode!

Ep 122: A Riddle Wrapped in a Mystery

Jesus often confused people—and it seems He did so on purpose. While this isn’t a characteristic we typically highlight in Sunday school, a quick look through the Gospels shows that our King didn’t always speak plainly, explain Himself, or behave in the ways people expected. In short, Jesus was often enigmatic. He could be mysterious. Even puzzling. So, if the goal of discipleship is to become more like Jesus, should we expect to carry a bit of that mystery as well? And if so, why? Let’s begin a two-part exploration of one of Jesus’s most intriguing traits.

Ep 123: (GH) A Riddle Wrapped in a Mystery

In this funny yet thought-provoking episode, Brian, Doc, and Handsome Kyle take on one of Jesus's intriguing characteristics—his enigmatic style. Jesus was sometimes puzzling, confusing, and vexing. So, if we are to become more like Him, should we expect to be more enigmatic? What would that even look like? Once the guys finally settle into the topic, they debate whether this aspect of Jesus is for Him alone, or whether we may sometimes confuse people in our quest to become more loving. One thing is for sure - Jesus is tough to pin down.

Ep 124: Snakes and Doves

What does it mean to reflect the relational wisdom of Jesus in a complex world? In Episode 124, we explore the striking balance Jesus models between innocence and shrewdness—what He called being "wise as serpents and innocent as doves." Jesus didn’t relate to everyone the same way. Sometimes cryptic, sometimes candid, He always saw to the heart. He navigated human motives with remarkable discernment, adapting His approach with stunning nuance. Drawing from the stories of Sherlock Holmes, the Hebrew midwives, and the parable of the shrewd manager, we unpack what it means to engage others with holy perception. We also revisit the practice of Heart Listening—attuning ourselves to the deeper signals beneath words, behaviors, and emotions. If Jesus is our model for love, wisdom, and relationship, we must learn to listen like Him, discern like Him, and respond like Him. This episode invites you to pursue spiritual maturity that’s not just innocent—but also perceptive, courageous, and creatively compassionate.

Ep 125: (GH) Snakes and Doves

In this episode, Doc, Reverend Pastor Handsome Kyle, and Brian explore the relational discernment of Jesus and its significance for deep discipleship.

Ep 126: Do-It-Yourself Log Removal

We all judge—and we all get judged. But what does it mean to judge like Jesus? In this episode, we explore one of Christ’s lesser-discussed traits: his role as judge. We unpack the tension between “Do not judge” and “judge with righteous judgment,” examining why judgment is inescapable, how it reveals the hidden ideas and desires in our hearts, and what it looks like to remove the logs from our own eyes before helping others. With insights from Dallas Willard, the Bible Project, and personal stories, we learn that discerning, humble judgment can become a powerful act of love—if rooted in Kingdom ideas.

Ep 127: (GH) Do-It-Yourself Log Removal

Ep 128: Gentleness on the Brute Squad

What does it really mean to be gentle? Is it weakness, meekness, or something far stronger? In this episode, Brian explores the biblical virtue of gentleness through surprising stories—from Andre the Giant in The Princess Bride to the quiet strength of Jesus on the cross.

Ep 129: (GH) Gentleness on the Brute Squad

Ep 130: Rested and Relaxed

Ep 131: (GH) Rested and Relaxed

Ep 132: (Bonus) My Two Sons

Ep 133: The Love That Surpasses Knowledge

In the Season 6 finale of Soil & Roots, Brian takes us on a sweeping journey through the core themes we’ve explored over the past three years—The Great Omission, the tension between the head and the heart, the hidden power of ideas, and the path toward becoming a deep person shaped by divine love.

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